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Nov. 25th, 2011

01:22 pm - *gnng*

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OK so this has been doing the rounds on Twitter: "Mum, I need your help". It's a site dedicated to convincing your Mum to vote for a particular set of values.

As a Mum, I find it insulting as hell.

"All I dream about is what your generation had -" thus follows a list of things 'my generation' did not actually have.

Then follows a bunch of information about various issues. I know they only have a small space, I know it's oversimplified, and it's obviously designed to tug some heartstrings and play to compassion. I have no problem with that. But..

"I know you think of me already, and I don’t want to be pushy, but this election we’re at a crossroads, we’re deciding on the long-term path from here."

"Oh gosh, nope, I had no idea that this election was so important, thank you child for enlightening my ignorance with your wisdom and telling me how things are. After all, I'm a Mum, how could I possibly know these things without being told by you?"

*snarl*

And of course my main question is, "Why Mums? What about Dads?" Well apparently, "Because, when we're searching for answers, it tends to be the wisdom and nurturing hearts of our mums that guides us."

Because I apparently have fucking nurturing heart, through virtue of having pushed something the size of a watermelon out my vagina. And while my wisdom guides 'us', I am not wise enough to decide who to vote for without my kid's photo being attached to some patronising website and sent to me.

I know the guy's heart's in the right place, but I just feel patronised, insulted and stereotyped. Am I overreacting or do others see this too?

By the way, I voted Green - based on my research and understanding of politics and policy in combination with my values. And I didn't need to be told to do it by anyone else, mmk?

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From:vernacularity
Date:November 25th, 2011 12:29 am (UTC)
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I hated that site as soon as i opened it. patronising. also, appalling site design.
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From:vernacularity
Date:November 25th, 2011 12:30 am (UTC)
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part of it is the whole whiney-brat thing. Muuuuuuuu-uuuuuuum.....
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From:tatjna
Date:November 25th, 2011 12:32 am (UTC)
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I mostly disliked the assumption that:

a) Mums weren't already considering the future when choosing who to vote for.
b) We somehow need to be told to do this, and spoon fed selected information to convince us.

In other words, who exactly do the website creators think Mums are? And what does it say about what the creators think of their own Mum?
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From:decanker
Date:November 25th, 2011 01:46 am (UTC)

Re: And I didn't need to be told to do it by anyone else, mmk?

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Hey, so do I, which is why I didn't just say, Mum, vote Green, as much as I might have implied (any non-NACT party was fine by me).

I don't reckon it works to explicitly tell someone who to vote for. We all naturally get defensive.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 25th, 2011 01:49 am (UTC)

Re: And I didn't need to be told to do it by anyone else, mmk?

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The other day I suggested a colleague watch that thing on child poverty, and in the resulting discussion she explored a bunch of core values she had that she'd never equated with voting before. I have no idea who she'll vote for but I doubt very much it'll be National given her shock at some of the media-bollocks she's now aware of.

I call that a win. ;-)
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From:vernacularity
Date:November 25th, 2011 02:07 am (UTC)

Re: And I didn't need to be told to do it by anyone else, mmk?

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Don't you refuse to allow ME to whap a firehose across your quivering buttocks!
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From:vernacularity
Date:November 25th, 2011 02:03 am (UTC)

Re: And I didn't need to be told to do it by anyone else, mmk?

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This, and sentences starting with "you have to see/read this" get me ranty.

100% !! This is something that is really irritating me about a number of the Occupy emailings/posts on the Coactivate site. If people are too damn lazy to tell me WHY I "have" to watch it, ie a short sentence saying "this is a movie that shows a person doing/telling such-and-such" or even "a short vid about X", then buggered if I am going to spend my time on it. I'd rather make meaningless jokes on faceborg.

The "you have to see this" comes across to me as "once you see this you will be utterly convinced exactly as I was, to think what I do", and the refusal to say what it is about is a variety of ambush.

Also, don't fucking tell ME what to do. Especially if you're a rights activist activising against being told how to live.
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From:pombagira
Date:November 25th, 2011 01:27 am (UTC)
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hmm.. i wanted there to be more infomation more clicky buttons but there wasn't which is dissapointing. having said that.. it would be less offensive? if it was not just directed at mums, and given from the comment the make of the website made, that it was meant for his mother, who i am guessing is in the same age bracket as mine.. the content is ok, (although i still want more indepth info) but also the content would should also be of interest to T, mums partner.. aka my step dad, casue he votes to.. *nods*...

*ponders*..

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From:decanker
Date:November 25th, 2011 02:01 am (UTC)
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I wanted more info too, I wanted to back up my lofty talk! But I simply ran out of time to get my links together :)
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From:pombagira
Date:November 25th, 2011 04:28 am (UTC)
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ohh.. its pants when you run out of time for execute a good idea ack... but still, could be a good website to workon so as to inform more of that generation of what is happaneing politcally, perhaps even with infomation about various laws that are comming up for review, or being proposed, what they mean for the people of new zealand, and how to make submission on them?

this i think is infomation at that is very important, as many kiwis beleive that it is only 'important people' who are allowed to make such sumbissions, when actually we are all eligible to make submissions to the select committee when laws are passed or amended.. and actually their say is important, in some cases just as important as voting.. hmm.

that way your website will stay valid, as such for the foreseeable future and could well be a good resource for getting people to know what is going on and what it means. it could be a site i could direct my mum to, as we sometimes talk politics, and she is of the belief that there is nothing that she can do to change it, but if there was a website that was in plain english, pointing out that there was a way they could have their say regarding laws and making submissions, and that they to could make a difference, would be very cool.

*ponders this*..
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From:_fustian
Date:November 25th, 2011 01:29 am (UTC)
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It seems to me that the site's designed to be personalised with a photo and sent to an individual. The targeting is therefore to be done by children who judge that their mothers are likely to respond positively to the message (ie. for whom it's perhaps more appropriate). If you haven't received it, it's not aimed at you. You're certainly free to take issue with the entire concept, but I'm not sure it's reasonable to criticise it on the assumption that you are its target.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 25th, 2011 02:10 am (UTC)
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Yes, as you will see from the comments here the creator of the site intended it for his Mum.

However, it remains that it's aimed at Mums and there is no equivalent for other people who may not vote according to your best interests.

Saying "if you haven't received it, it's not aimed at you" is kind of like saying that the sexist advertising tropes I see everywhere aren't aimed at me as a woman, because I don't buy lipstick/shoes/whatever.
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From:t_c_da
Date:November 25th, 2011 01:35 am (UTC)
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A bit hard to refer my Mum to that site - she's been dead 17 years, and she lived in Australia all her life anyway...
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