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Gamergate is a dumb hashtag anyway. - Tactical Ninja

Oct. 17th, 2014

10:10 am - Gamergate is a dumb hashtag anyway.

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Because I don't really enjoy wading through screeds of vitriolic abuse against women, I haven't read a whole lot about gamergate. Which says a lot about the problems with gamergate IMO.

What I am getting is that there is a small group of people who claim that it's about ethics in gaming journalism. However, the example that became known as the one that sparked it, was a woman who made a game, and later split with her boyfriend. The ex-boyfriend then posted a long rant on the internet that said a lot of nasty things about her, including that she'd slept with a game journalist to get a good review for her game. Turns out the guy had never reviewed her game, but that doesn't seem to matter any more, because she has become the target of an extensive harrassment campaign that has nothing to do with ethics and everything to do with that fact that she's a woman.

Now, gamergate is viewed as an essentially anti-woman thing. Regardless of whether there are some earnest folk out there who actually do want to raise the ethical standards of gaming journalism, what happened to Zoe Quinn and other women who defended her is the defining characteristic of the whole debacle.

Whatever cause might have existed at the start has been subsumed under a tide of woman hating, to the point where it's impossible to find anything that *doesn't* include it. The more moderate types are attempting to discuss the 'end of the gamer identity' because gaming is no longer the exclusive clubhouse it once was. Many are scoring points by saying this is a good thing.

My opinion is this - first, it really annoys me that the word 'gamer' is being used in this controversy in the place of what should actually say 'entitled prats'. Gamers are a large group of people. I'm one. I resent that this part of my identity has been usurped by these gits, and that those reporting on it are allowing this to happen. Second, as a gamer of 30+ years, I find it infuriating that the response to the aforementioned entitled prats finally realising that they don't get to define what a gamer is and having a tantrum about it, has led to speculation that the identity doesn't exist any more.

Gamers exist. Gamers who do not match the demographic of Entitled Prat On The Internet exist. News flash, we have always existed, and we continue to exist.

I will always be a gamer. In some things, I have probably on occasion acted like an entitled prat. What I am not is a woman-hating arsehole who is afraid of girl cooties in the clubhouse (those cooties have been there since gaming began, yo), and responds to my fear with threats of violence. That person? I don't accept their behaviour as my identity.

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From:ferrouswheel
Date:October 16th, 2014 09:31 pm (UTC)
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I'd been staying out of it and avoiding as much as possible. I saw the original Zoe Quinn post, it makes her sound like a terribly manipulative person. It also called into question the professionalism of the gaming press/industry, since it wasn't just the one game reviewer... it was a series of people while supposedly in a relationship with ex-boyfriend. There were also other gaming "celebrities" claiming things and throwing drama around, but who turned out had relationships with Zoe or Zoe's partners. It was all very incestuous.

It's also only one side of the story. Zoe said she wasn't going to say anything else, so everyone gets to make up the rest.

It's enticing, but is also completely irrelevant to "Gaming". There are lots of terrible people out there, and with personal lives that could show someone to not be a nice person. That doesn't mean they should be subjected to mob justice (I actually think that happens in the reverse too, when someone with unpopular beliefs comes into the spot light of social crusaders, everyone piles on them. The net effect doesn't fix anything or change anyone's beliefs).

I think part of the mob psychology is that, the Zoe portrayed in jaded ex-boyfriends extended story, potentially represents someone people have been hurt by before. I've encountered those manipulative girls (and boys) in my uni days, and perhaps the vitriol is elevated by personal experiences of people cheating and lying to them. Which doesn't excuse their behaviour, with their behaviour ironically a prime example of why nobody loves their sad pathetic selves.

(Note, I read the Zoe post and initial response, quickly decided this wasn't worth my time despite having juicy drama and haven't read anything else except headlines that show up in FB which I quickly scroll over).
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From:tatjna
Date:October 16th, 2014 09:35 pm (UTC)
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I became aware of the whole thing later, after it'd gone from being about Zoe Quinn to being about mob mentality and nasty harrassment of women. I don't give a crap about who slept with who but I care a great deal about the policing and dogpiling of women in gaming. And now Anita Sarkeesian has been dragged in as well, and people are lining up on both sides. Weirdly, a lot of people are perceiving it as a fight between men, with women as a central theme but not active agency.

The one good thing that's come out of it for me is that I'm getting a clear view of just how many gamer men are *not* entitled prats. It's heartening, that.
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From:anna_en_route
Date:October 17th, 2014 12:41 am (UTC)
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I like John Scalzi's take on it

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2014/10/12/pineapplepizzagate/

Rapidly followed up on twitter by an influx of gamergate people looking to insult (although tellingly not rape or threaten) John Scalzi

leading to this:
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2014/10/14/the-scalzi-gender/

Cheered me up no end.
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From:tatjna
Date:October 17th, 2014 01:37 am (UTC)
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Haha that made me laugh.
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From:anna_en_route
Date:October 17th, 2014 02:29 am (UTC)
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It's about what they deserve at this stage (excluding the ones threatening terrorism obviously).


Journalistic ethics are great and all but it's not like the gamer community has reacted particularly well to honest reviews in the past either.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/06/13

(I know it's Penny Arcade but this one is worthwhile)
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From:fbhjr
Date:October 17th, 2014 01:28 am (UTC)
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Yeah.
That whole thing is something.
Making threats as some of those folks have done is a crime.
I don't understand why it would not be treated as such.
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From:tatjna
Date:October 17th, 2014 01:37 am (UTC)
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As far as I know in the case of Anita Sarkeesian, it's because Utah's open carry laws trump their domestic terrorism ones. Which is a bit... um... yeah.
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