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Irony is sometimes particularly delicious - Tactical Ninja

Sep. 18th, 2014

08:51 am - Irony is sometimes particularly delicious

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Our country goes to the polls on Saturday.

A couple of years ago, the current government passed an act under urgency, against the recommendations of experts and a significant and vocal number of citizens, that came to be known as the Skynet Bill. It's an anti-piracy law that allows copyright owners to prosecute NZ citizens through ISPs, fine them up to $15,000, and has provision for anyone found to be infringing more than three times to have their internet cut off.

This week, Eminem's publishers sued the goverment for using his song "Lose Yourself" as part of their election campaign.


So now this poster is up on TradeMe (the NZ equivalent of eBay):



And this from Kim Dotcom, the MegaUpload guy, who was arrested in an illegal, military-style search in New Zealand for alleged copyright infringement and whom the US government has been trying to extradite ever since. Dotcom is a dodgy fucker and I don't like him, but this made me laugh given the harrassment he's suffered as John Key tries to ingratiate himself with the US government:



And then there's this parody song based around the illegal spying revealed on Monday and the book Dirty Politics, released last month, in which government corruption is exposed and over which the Justice Minister (Judith Collins) resigned.

Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To seize all the political power you ever wanted. One moment
Would you capture it or just let it slip?
Yo

The farms are petty, foreign ownership steady,
There’s votes to be had, Cameron Slater’s ready
I’m nervous, but on the surface polls look calm and pretty, Max and me selfie
But I keeps on forgetting what GCSB wrote down,
The whole Press Gallery goes so loud
I opens my mouth, but Hager’s words come out
I’m choking how, everybody’s poking luck
The elections run out, time’s up, over, fuck!

Snap back to Press Gallery, Oh there goes Paddy
Oh, there goes Judith, she choked
I’m so mad, but I won’t give up that
Easy, no
I won’t have it, I know what’ll get me off the ropes
I know most NZers are stupid dopes
they didn’t blink over drone predator
they’ll let me kill the messenger
When Glenwald goes back to his mobile home, that’s when it’s
Back to the jib jab again, yo
This whole mass surveillance rap sheet
I’m gonna go capture this moment and hope it don’t pass me

[Hook:]
You’re a loser yourself in the spying, the moment
of truth, you better let it go
You only got one shot, you missed your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo
You’re a loser yourself in the spying, the moment
of truth, I’m the PM with all my comments
but you only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo
(You better)


I lol'd


Meanwhile, I note that people wear their political party like a badge, in a similar way that people wear their football team. Only, political parties at least have some connection to a set of values, and thus to an identity. I am still vaguely weirded out by it, because identifying with a political party like that seems to instil a 'we' and 'you' mentality. 'We' are going to win, and then 'you' will be sad. Never mind that actually, the people who will be sad will be those who the policies don't help.

I have some difficulty with the knowledge that support for a political party is an indication of values. There are a couple of National voters, including one of the sign-waving ones, in my internet circles. Now that I know that about them, I think less of them. Not because they aren't nice people, but because of what it indicates about their values, and how different they are from my own. I haven't gone so far as to exclude them from my circles, because I believe that having people who disagree with me in my life is a good thing. But one of these people reposted that thing from the Prolife.org group about late term abortion, as if it were truth. And knowing that this person a) has values that support a bunch of policies that I despise, and b) is happy to repost outrageous claims from extremist groups without researching first? Well, it makes me think less of them.

I feel a bit bad about that and am trying to work out whether this is something I need to work on in terms of acceptance of other people's views. If political views are representative of values and values are part of identity, should I be accepting the people whose identities align with values I disagree with?

And last night, just to prove I'm getting old, I had a Get Off My Lawn moment - literally. A kid stole a flower from by our letterbox. That's ok, right? But 5 minutes later he was back for more. He glanced at our house and saw me in the window, watching him. I didn't shake my fist at him, but I did make it clear I could see what he was doing, and he ran off. I bet now he thinks I'm the crotchety old lady with the flowers.

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From:pombagira
Date:September 17th, 2014 09:27 pm (UTC)
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perhaps it is more about where or what your line is.. acceptance of other peoples views is all well and good but it becomes bad if you are only doing it in order, to feed another impulse, weather that is to be accepted, to feel good or to blend it, which is generally a subconscious thing.. so to speak.. (this is very difficult to put into words)

a bit like that, vertue of Kiwiburn, Radical Inclusion.. which for the longest time people presumed it meant that we had to accept everyone no matter who they were or what they did.. and it took some time to learn that it actually meant yes Radical Inclusion for so long as you follow the 10 principles (and the legal law) buy a ticket and are not a dick, and now we have a banning process

or in other words it is not about pleasing all of the people all of the time, sometimes a line must be drawn..albeit a wobbley one in the sand..

*ponders things*
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From:tatjna
Date:September 17th, 2014 09:30 pm (UTC)
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Hmm, true - although I don't think it's necessarily about pleasing people or acceptance, so much as I don't want to become one of those insular people who surrounds themselves only with people who agree with them. Being challenged on your views is good - but sometimes I have trouble respecting the challenger in this situation, and that's what bothers me.
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From:pombagira
Date:September 17th, 2014 09:38 pm (UTC)
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yeah being challenged on your views is good.. and surrounding yourself is only those who only agree can create a very skewed world view. but also being careful about how many challengers and how they are challenging you is important to. for me as always it is about balance.. wibbley wobble balance..

*ponders this more*
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From:tatjna
Date:September 17th, 2014 09:40 pm (UTC)
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Yeah. I don't have a lot of intelligent, good debaters in my life who disagree with me politically. And certainly among friend groups you can't expect everyone to have those skills. This could be why I'm having trouble discovering these people in my circle - not only do they not agree with me, they are not good examples of why someone would make those choices and can't articulate it in a well-informed way to give me some idea of what drives it.

;-/

I am such a snob.
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From:pombagira
Date:September 17th, 2014 09:48 pm (UTC)
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not snob . .. discerning... yup..

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From:fbhjr
Date:September 17th, 2014 10:16 pm (UTC)
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Here in the US political parties have totally become like football teams.
Anyone who thinks they care about anything other than their team winning is not paying attention.

Again, I'm sorry if where you live is becoming like that.
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From:tatjna
Date:September 17th, 2014 10:21 pm (UTC)
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The two main parties in NZ have always seemed a bit that way. It's the extent to which the supporters of the parties do the same that's got me a bit gobsmacked.
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From:elven_ranger
Date:September 18th, 2014 01:21 pm (UTC)
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Most politicians are crazy it seems.
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From:tatjna
Date:September 18th, 2014 08:16 pm (UTC)
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I suspect politics does that to people. Thus, anyone who's been in politics more than 10 years probably needs the side-eye.
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