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Dear world, get over your fascination with coriander, kthxbye - Tactical Ninja

Mar. 10th, 2014

11:49 am - Dear world, get over your fascination with coriander, kthxbye

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- Cleaned the house, all shiny and fancy like. Particularly liked the part where the next morning, the YoT came out and asked if I'd done the vacuuming yet and offering to do it. I'm like "Can't you tell?" O.o

- Took the boat out for a few hours down the northeastern side of the Miramar peninsula. There's a shelf about 200m offshore I was looking for, but failed to find. I spent some time with anchor/berley and got bites, and I seem to be developing a knack for catching accidental blue cod. They like it when I stop the boat to faff around with something, it's like they know I'm not paying attention. Actually, I think they just like drifting lures, so I might try that next time out. Anyway, still too small for me to be comfortable with taking home so back they went, but catching fish is better than not catching fish, eh? Also, my paddling is improving in leaps and bounds.

- On the kayak front, this week we'll be picking up my whitewater boat from my brother's for Dr Wheel to try out. Apparently the spray skirt is still there but the paddle's nowhere to be found. Weird.

- Spent all day Sunday in the garden. Trimmed edges, weeded, pruned, spread sweet pea and nasturtium seeds on all the unused banks, picked another 15 or so tomatoes, mulched, mowed the lawn, planted out broccoli, marigolds, cornflowers, stocks, and cosmos. Onions and carrots are coming up in seed trays. First lot of tomatoes is almost finished, second lot starting, beans about to come on, courgettes still going, and my solitary capsicum is getting bigger. Also, chillies!

- Went for dinner at Flying Burrito Brothers*, An hour and a half later our food hadn't arrived so we gave up and left because we had to be at a show. They were rushed off their feet and short staffed, and when we went back later they refunded us which made me feel a lot better about the whole thing, but I'm still not sure I'll go back. The show was really fun, lots of entertaining circus stuff and of course, adagio. As usual it inspired me to try doing things that will take years to get good at.

- Had a visit from the youngest Wheel. He's 19 months old and not really talking yet, but perfectly able to communicate just the same. Also, we had lunch in the sun on the deck, and my plate was sitting on the decking with a knife on it. Young Wheel was stomping and he noticed the clinking of the knife on the plate. I watched in fascination as he stomped right by the plate, then moved further away and tried it again, then right as far away as he could get to test his range. Smart kid. Eep.

* Turns out that Mexican and Thai are the two styles of food to avoid if you dislike coriander. I've taken to telling waitstaff I'm allergic because it makes them stop requiring justification for not wanting it in my meal. "Oh, do you just not like it?" is a really invalidating thing to hear when you ask about it. Actually no, I don't just not like it. I am genetically predisposed to have my entire meal taste like it's been doused in laundry soap if it's in there, to the point where it's just inedible. But I don't want to have to keep repeating this, so I say I'm allergic and they shut up. Regardless, Mexican and Thai are better if I make them myself - then I can avoid the whole issue.

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From:bekitty
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:07 pm (UTC)
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CORIANDER EW ACK SOAP :( :(

Was the show that you went to called "Beyond"? Because the Boy and I are going to that on Sunday! My mum got given a bunch of free tickets to various Festival events, becaus she's helping organise Writers & Readers Week. (She's also chairing the session with Elizabeth Gilbert at the Embassy, so she's reading "Eat Pray Love" ahead of time.) She had tickets to Beyond and didn't really have time to go, so she gave them to us instead.

Also, my cataract surgery will be tomorrow afternoon. Woot! \o/
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From:tatjna
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:08 pm (UTC)
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Exciting on both counts! And yes, it was Beyond. I really enjoyed it, particularly the way they transitioned from one move to the next. It was eclectic and hectic and fun.
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From:bekitty
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:09 pm (UTC)
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Awesome! :D
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From:pombagira
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:14 pm (UTC)
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i think if i was to play about in a kyack, i would so need a life jacket so as to be more confident when i fell out... *nods*

also my weekend was all about the cutting out, and then new irons, O.O and cups of tea with Karl.. whoot!
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From:tatjna
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:16 pm (UTC)
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Yep. Nobody gets in a kayak without a bouyancy aid around me. It's too easy to fall out of one and short of being a superhero, everybody needs flotation in that situation.
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From:pombagira
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:20 pm (UTC)
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true that..

yay boyancy aids.. *skips about*
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:26 pm (UTC)
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I can certainly understand feeling the wait staff's implication, even though they didn't actually say it. At the same time though, at Scopa happyinmotion was also asked "Are you allergic?" about his requirements, and the follow up was about the way the food is prepared.

I get the feeling most kitchens don't have specific utensils for each ingredient during preparation. So the question could equally be about whether they need to wash down everything before preparing your meal. I'd guess that normally there isn't time to do that for every single customer's meal, so it's an important thing to ask, because if you are deathly allergic then they can't take any shortcuts!
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From:tatjna
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:31 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I completely understand why they do it - they certainly don't want to kill anyone. It's the 'just' part that bothers me when they talk about disliking it, because the implication there is that it's not really serious, and I've had meals where I've asked for no coriander and it's almost as if they've gone "Oh she just doesn't like it so it'll be ok if we sneak a little bit in." Which effectively ruins it.

We had a conference recently for my work, and I didn't say anything on the food requirements because I didn't want to come across as a wanker. And as it turned out, the only thing I could eat in the dinner was some beans and mashed potato. Everything else had coriander in it. Next time I'll be a wanker.
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:36 pm (UTC)
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I think there is nothing wrong with indicating that Coriander makes the meal inedible for you. People can make their judgements, but that doesn't make you a wanker, it makes them small-minded.
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From:tatjna
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:26 am (UTC)
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You're right of course. Shame we all get such a hard time for being 'fussy eaters' as kids - it leaves behind some pretty bullshit ideas about what's ok as an adult.
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From:anna_en_route
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:49 pm (UTC)
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You might want to watch Indian food for coriander as well.
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From:tatjna
Date:March 9th, 2014 11:58 pm (UTC)
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Indian's been on my list for a long time, and I have worked out exactly what I can and can't order. The menu's limited but tolerable, and generally coriander is added to their dishes rather than an intrinsic part the way it seems to be with Mexican and Thai. So it can be left out if you ask.
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From:didotwite
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:21 am (UTC)
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Yum cilantro. Apparently the world is split between us so you can send it all to me. http://io9.com/are-there-some-vegetables-you-cant-stand-it-may-be-ge-1532668567
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From:tatjna
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:25 am (UTC)
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You are welcome to it.

I understand the split between lovers and haters of coriander is about 75%/25%. Which explains why majority wins and it's so bloody popular right now that they put it in everything.

However, if I were a business and I knew that 25% of my potential customers were being put off my food by the overuse (any use is overuse) of one herb, I'd ditch the herb in favour of the customers.
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From:didotwite
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:29 am (UTC)

Erk

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Boring world, party of millions.

I don't object to allergy lies and I don't waste time interrogating friends about them either. Life's too short to get hung up on diversity.
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From:didotwite
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:29 am (UTC)
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(And to be served food you can't eat!)
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From:tatjna
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:32 am (UTC)
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Heh. I am growing a backbone about it, but there's always a voice in my head telling me to stop being like that and just suck it up. Which is silly. ;-)
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From:didotwite
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:35 am (UTC)

Naw

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If it makes food like soap then we.

Our friend thinks sesame seeds are like maggots. Childhood incident. That qualifies as an allergy!
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From:ms_hecubus
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:54 am (UTC)
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There's a reason this was my default icon for years and years.

The strangest thing is that I lived in Texas for a while and ate Mexican food regularly. Never once did I gag on cilantro. My sister's roommate in college was from Mexico and they didn't use cilantro in any of their dishes, even when she visited her in Mexico and was treated to homemade, traditional cuisine. Then all of a sudden it became super popular and people in California started swearing it was so authentically Mexican so now all of the chains douse their dishes in it. I call shenanigans!
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From:tatjna
Date:March 10th, 2014 12:57 am (UTC)
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From what I understand, New Zealand Mexican isn't anything like authentic Mexican anyway - it's too hard to get a lot of the signature ingredients here (what with being approaching subantarctic and whatnot), and I suspect the kiwi palate isn't really up for the style of Mexican I had when I was closer to actual Mexico.

But yeah, the coriander thing is universal apparently. And that icon is one of the reasons I friended you. ;-)
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From:morbid_curious
Date:March 19th, 2014 05:33 am (UTC)
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Our Chinese is rarely Chinese, too - you'd be forgiven for thinking that broccoli was a traditional staple of their diet, from most of the places around here.

I'm told, by people with Mexican heritage who've lived in Mexico for a while, that Flying Burrito Brothers is about as close to authentically Mexican as you can get in Christchurch without cooking it yourself. Their "no booking" policy is a bastard, though, and so you do need to be prepared to wait on busy nights. (Which you obviously found out. Sorry I didn't have an opportunity to warn you - or come and say hi, for that matter!)

Going there with someone who has a bunch of diet restrictions (vegetarian, can't eat mushrooms, some taste sensitivities) we were able to find tasty food for her to eat there, but the menu was considerably limited. It did take a couple of waitstaff trips back to the kitchen to check on a couple of things, but they did treat us a lot better than some restaurants. We've been some places where the staff attitude is a whole lot of eyerolling and not a lot else.

I'm a filthy coriander fiend myself, but it's something I always ask about if I'm cooking Mexican or Indian for others. Safest to check beforehand, rather than apologise afterwards!
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From:blue_eye
Date:March 10th, 2014 05:34 am (UTC)
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I couldn't even tell you what coriander tastes like. It's unfortunate that it tastes so bad for you that it is unbearable.
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From:tatjna
Date:March 10th, 2014 07:00 pm (UTC)
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Apparently for most people it tastes like awesome, but for me it tastes like soap.
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From:meathiel
Date:March 10th, 2014 08:11 am (UTC)
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Who is the youngest Wheel??? Nephew??? Really smart kid ...
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From:tatjna
Date:March 10th, 2014 07:00 pm (UTC)
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Yep, nephew. It's been a while since I was around little ones, but yeah, it seemed pretty smart to me too.
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From:goddessofchaos
Date:March 10th, 2014 11:12 am (UTC)
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My mum has the same issue with parsley. Even if it's just used to garnish a dish she says she can taste it in every bite.

An hour and a half wait and still no food? There's no amount of busyness or short-staffing that makes that OK.
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From:tatjna
Date:March 10th, 2014 07:01 pm (UTC)
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We did get entrees in that time so we weren't entirely without food, but yeah - it seemed excessive to me too.
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From:zoefruitcake
Date:March 10th, 2014 07:49 pm (UTC)
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It's horrible stuff
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From:tatjna
Date:March 11th, 2014 07:35 pm (UTC)
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I wish more restaurants would recognise this and at least warn for it.
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From:meri_sielu
Date:March 10th, 2014 09:22 pm (UTC)
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Oh my god I feel you on the coriander, I get the same unpleasant taste. It just appears in everything especially things you least suspect and just ARGH! Many an otherwise decent sandwich has been ruined due to ninja coriander. :(
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From:tatjna
Date:March 11th, 2014 07:35 pm (UTC)
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I had an otherwise lovely meal on Monday night, in which they'd sneaked baby coriander sprouts into the cooked spinach. It took my ages to find it and get it out because it still had its cotyledon leaves on and didn't look like normal coriander. Sneaky!
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