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Nov. 6th, 2013

08:34 am - Ponies!

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So last night was Guy Fawkes night. Whether you understand about this depends on where you come from, I guess. In New Zealand it's a fairly big deal, even since skyrockets were banned and fireworks got super expensive. Normally the council puts on a 20 minute full scale show from a barge in the harbour, and I was looking forward to it since we live in a place where we could view it without having to go down there. And it was a still night, too.

However, this year for some unknown reason* the display is being held on Saturday instead of on the actual day. This means that instead of going to watch the public display, folks bought fireworks and let off their own. This is the result, complete with broad kiwi accents and plausible deniability:



People normally buy a few and let off their own, but this seems more than usual. Maybe it's because we're in a place to see it all and the sound funnels up to us, maybe I've just never noticed before. But when I had a dog I noticed fireworks - folks with pets tend to, eh?

Meanwhile, the YoT impulse-bought a bunch of those little spinning ones that you light and toss onto a flat surface, and I watched in amusement as the menfolk performed 'science experiments' with sellotape and string and the washing line. In a very responsible manner. Yup.

And, yesterday was the Melbourne Cup, which is also a big deal. I had two horses in the sweepstake at work, an English one and an Irish one. People at work laughed at me when I said my Irish horse looked very Irish, but he bloody well did. Sadly, he also ran slowly. As did the English horse, Royal Empire, who faded away like a bad metaphor. I believe the winner was a horse originally from England but trained in Australia. This is the culmination of 33 years of following the Melbourne Cup without every having picked a winner. And because I didn't win, my office will not be getting shouted cronuts for morning tea.

When did cronuts become a thing anyway?

* Taking bets on whether the businesses that like to sell alcohol to the patrons of big public events had anything to do with that.

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From:riath
Date:November 5th, 2013 07:50 pm (UTC)
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Are those little spinning ones like Catherine Wheels? My FiL nailed one to the table in the yard one year and burnt a giant circle into it. He didn't do it again that's for sure!

It's Guy Fawkes here tonight, though a rather soggy one. Our council does a big bonfire and professional fireworks display too, but we didn't feel like going down and sinking into the mud bog that the field will be, plus we can see well enough from the house.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 07:58 pm (UTC)
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Kind of, if you can picture a Catherine Wheel about 2 inches long, that you don't nail to anything. It just kind of skitters around spinning in a tiny circle really fast like an angry bumblebee for about 10 seconds.

And yep, there's something to be said for a public display you can watch without leaving the house. In Wellington, wind is our problem and there's every chance that the display on Saturday will be gusty and awful. It's a shame to have missed such a nice night for it.
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From:pombagira
Date:November 5th, 2013 07:54 pm (UTC)
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actually i wonder that the fireworks were not louder this year.. they seemd to be.. *ponders this* i had a similar view where i was, which pretty much went on untill after midnight.. meh..

so yeah i am curious as to why the satruday night fireworks display, seems odd considering every other year we have had it on the actual night.. *ponders this*

also i remember teh bridgwater carnival, in england when i was a wee girl, it was on guyfawks, it was wonderful..

also three more sleeps.. whoot!

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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 08:01 pm (UTC)
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According to this, it's 'to encourage families'. Because getting young kids to an event that starts at 9pm is totally easier on Saturdays!

It goes on to talk about 'opportunities to develop' which translates to 'capitalising on the spectacle by extracting more money from punters'.

Also, I wouldn't take a young kid to the waterfront on a Saturday night. I would on a Tuesday.
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From:pombagira
Date:November 5th, 2013 08:03 pm (UTC)
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yeah i wouldn't even take myself to the waterfront on a satruday night.

i am going to be in petoni having dinner with nicola, so yeah,

yeah..

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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 08:41 pm (UTC)
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Yeah. And even if it is for families, which I highly doubt, I wonder why it is that we are supposed to accept that these mysterious families (which are not representative of my family at all) get to dictate how the rest of us are served by the council?
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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
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No, I didn't.

I am going straight to the Press Council. Fuck the Herald.

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As it turns out, because I submitted my complaint via the Herald's form on site, I have no evidence of having complained to send to the Press Council.

So, I've sent a follow-up to the Herald re-outlining my argument and asking them to address my complaint within 10 days. I've kept a copy of that along with a screenshot of the form (with letter in it) which includes the date - still within the required month - and a copy of the acknowledgement email from the Herald.

If nothing happens in 10 days I'll escalate.

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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 10:53 pm (UTC)
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Traffic cones seem to be ubiquitously useful for almost anything, it's true.
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From:zoefruitcake
Date:November 5th, 2013 09:40 pm (UTC)
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can't beat fireworks!
After watching two series of The Almighty Johnsons I think I am better with the accent than I would have been before ;0)
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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 10:42 pm (UTC)
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I have come up with an unofficial test of people's ability to parse the kiwi accent, using a pair of linked videos. First, the anti drink-driving ad 'Ghost Chips':



Then, the parody music video that arose from the meme sparked by the ad:



Also, Eru, who plays the ghost in the second video? Kinda hot.

Apparently some people need subtitles for NZ media.
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From:zoefruitcake
Date:November 6th, 2013 07:17 am (UTC)

I'm internalising complicated situations

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fantastic advert, and I think I understood it all. Good music vid too ;0)
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From:tatjna
Date:November 6th, 2013 07:45 pm (UTC)

Re: I'm internalising complicated situations

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That ad sparked so many memes along the lines of "You know I can't grab your ghost X". ;-)

Also, well done!
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From:pundigrion
Date:November 10th, 2013 03:55 am (UTC)
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Ghost chips!

Actually I found that all perfectly understandable, although quite different from the accents of New Zealanders (Wait, is that a proper thing? Maybe I should just stick with Kiwis, hmmm) that I have met. I'm guessing perhapsa strong difference from north to south?

ALso, I present you with the hardest to understand accent in Caanda:



And if you want a little more there is a nice stretch near the start here:


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From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 10th, 2013 07:22 pm (UTC)
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That accent reminds me of some of the broader midlands accents from England. I missed a few words but got the general drift - the old dude is quite proud of his dog's teeth! ;-)

New Zealanders is right, and there isn't really a localised group of accents as such here (although the deep South does have a bit of a burr due to the amount of colonisation from Scotland down there). The one in the ads is commonly known as 'bro', probably because it was made famous in a local cartoon series called BroTown. It's a national accent and is probably closest linked to what I think is called ebonics in the US?

I read somewhere that this type of speech is based in the application of emphases and ways of pronouncing vowels and consonants in Maori, to English. I can sort of see that, but it's developed over time into its own thing, and it isn't just Maori that use it. Most kiwis can do it at least a little.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 10th, 2013 07:23 pm (UTC)
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Doh. That was me.
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From:pundigrion
Date:November 12th, 2013 10:21 pm (UTC)
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Haha, I was wondering why you'd screened it but figured maybe it was a touchy topic!

I did ponder if it had a bit of Maori influence to it. In Southern California you get a similar effect with Spanish bleeding into English. In the logical conclusion you land up with Spanglish, but well before that on the spectrum you get a bit of accent-mixing and word mixing that is much more blended. Mostly just random words or things, like asking "Que?" (What?) and then continuing in English or using Spanish inflections in English words. This much more common than the more famous "Valley Girl" or "Surfer Dude" accents. Then again California is probably the diverse state accent-wise in the US. Aside from north to south, there are very stratified differences between classes. (Hence my lower class accent, heh. Luckily it is the closest to where I live now...minus the random Spanish.)
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From:empresskylon
Date:November 5th, 2013 09:51 pm (UTC)
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What are cronuts? I'm imagining a cross between a croissant and a donut?

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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 10:43 pm (UTC)
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Yep, that's pretty much it. I've never had one, but apparently they have toppled cupcakes as the Thing Of The Moment in trendy food circles.
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From:kehleyr
Date:November 5th, 2013 09:59 pm (UTC)
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What are skyrockets?

Love the accent <3.
I love fireworks :-D
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From:tatjna
Date:November 5th, 2013 10:45 pm (UTC)
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Skyrockets are fireworks whose sole purpose is to take off and fly through the air like a rocket, while trailing sparks. They used to be basically a firework strapped to a stick, and you'd put them in a milk bottle or such, then light them and run.

But so many people were hurt because well, people do silly things with fireworks and ones that fly are even easier to hurt yourself with. So they banned them.

Funny story, we saved some for the milennium after they were banned. And when we let them off, the bottle fell over and one ended up shooting between us where we were sitting, in the open door, down the long hallway of our house, and hitting the wall at the end. We hid the burn mark behind a picture..
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From:pickleboot
Date:November 6th, 2013 05:05 am (UTC)
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we did sparklers last night, and a neighbor brought those snap pops over for the kids and we had a neighborhood bonfire, which keir was at work for. it was an introduce storm to the neighbors/guy fawkes/monday night bonfire, and the guy throwing it did it just for keir, hoping he took the day off. at least the kids and i got to celebrate. and yes, i am american, married to a brit, living in small town america, and minnesota no less, and our neighbors made the effort. so sweet. and yes, we did it a day early, but it was the 5th in the uk, and we are getting 3 inches of snow today.

one year my dad got one of those spinning wheels and nailed it to the post holding up my mom's shade plant trellis. it was so pretty, and he thought that pouring several large watering cans worth of water over it would put it out, but overnight it smoldered and that whole front side of the pergola slowly turned to that odd solid ash/charcoal. my mom was furious. and i can't blame her.

i missed the melbourne cup. boo. will watch the repeat later.

i had some suggestion for you re making your work look more like metal and sending you a few tools i have at least in triplicate, but it's gone. will pm when i think of it. oh- and if you need copper or other "real" metal pieces made, give me a shout. i can make it or introduce you to the wonders of working copper, brass, bronze, and a few other fun metals.
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From:spotsofcolour
Date:November 6th, 2013 11:40 am (UTC)
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Ah the councils over here usually do them on the Saturday nearest to Bonfire night, because that way they can charge for admission and lots of people will come, and they get a big funfair set up, and the local radio station have a stage, and they usually get fire dancers pre-show too. They are usually pretty amazing though, but we missed them this year.

Plenty of rockets coming up around the place all week though!
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From:zhelana
Date:November 6th, 2013 12:32 pm (UTC)
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What's a cronut?
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From:tatjna
Date:November 6th, 2013 07:46 pm (UTC)
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A cross between a croissant and a doughnut. I have never had one so can't tell you if they're any good or not, but apparently they are A Thing at the moment.
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From:zhelana
Date:November 7th, 2013 12:13 am (UTC)
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huh. Who knew?
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From:adam_0oo
Date:November 6th, 2013 05:32 pm (UTC)
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Cronuts had people lining up for like 3 hours here like two months ago.

I want some, both because I want faddish crap and I really like sweet pastries.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 6th, 2013 07:46 pm (UTC)
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I should probably try one one day, eh? I am like the Anti Hipster.
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