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Thor's hammer is totally a euphemism - Tactical Ninja

May. 22nd, 2012

08:47 am - Thor's hammer is totally a euphemism

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Last night we saw The Avengers in a theatre with 9 or so other people. Either Monday night's not a popular movie night, or this movie is already past its peak. Before I get to the movie, a couple of things about the theatre:

1. Is pre-movie shorts the place where adverts too obscure for TV go to die?

2. I reckon they should put a vibratey thing in all the seats, then they wouldn't have to turn the volume up so bloody loud.

Anyway, on to the movie.


OK, to describe this movie in short - silly fun, lots of 'splosions, great one-liners, simple plotline in the same way Avatar had a simple plotline - you know whose side you're supposed to be on, like. Gratuitous fanservice everywhere. Hulk rocks. Failed the Bechdel test. I enjoyed it.

However, I could have done without Loki calling the Black Widow a whinging cunt, eh? Especially after last Friday's post. And I really really could have done without finding out Joss Whedon, who I have admired in the past for producing media I enjoy that includes kickarse female characters, bragged about it as the greatest achievement of the film:

RDA: What do you feel is the greatest achievement of "the Avengers"?

JW: Getting "mewling quim" out there to the masses. Also, Hulk.


I know he was probably joking* and I agree with him about Hulk, but really Joss? Was that absolutely necessary? You just gave 'the masses' another way of calling me a cunt and thinking it's clever. *unimpressed* Also, no thanks for making the only gender-based insult in the movie the one aimed at a woman.

Dr Wheel said the movie left him feeling strangely unsatisfied, but he says what he enjoyed about Marvel as a kid was the storylines, and this movie was kind of short on character development - it was more about getting the superheroes together and seeing what happens, which is as mentioned before, silly fun with lots of 'splosions and gratuitous fanservice. I, who have never been a reader of Marvel, enjoyed it for what it was because I had no expectations going in and so was happy with the generous helping of sillyfunnycoolshinysexy. This movie has a lot going for it.

Also, I'm really glad that movie makers have gotten over making A Thing out of 3D in their movies.

* "It was just a joke" is such a common way of attempting to silence objections to insults. Cue eyerolling from anyone who's ever been the butt of one of these 'jokes'.


So yeah. Another of those movies that is great fun but that required a conscious choice on my part to enjoy it despite rather than not enjoy it because. It was easier with this one than with most other movies of its ilk. Also, Loki's hot.

In other news, last night I discovered that leftover corn chips from Sunday's nacho night, whizzed up in the whizzer with some smoked paprika and other yummies, makes a fairly decent crumb coating for bits o'lamb on Monday night. Win!

Today I am making an appointment to see an osteopath. This pain in my neck has been ongoing for several weeks and isn't getting better. I suspect it comes from my shoulder, and it's time to do something about it. The pain is making me cranky. *gruntles*

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From:crsg
Date:May 21st, 2012 10:01 pm (UTC)
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I liked the film, but mostly because of the humour which Joss Whedon does so well. More and more lately though it's been harder for me to appreciate action movies. I was never a big fan of explosions and whatnot to start with I suppose, but now it's difficult for me not to get just plain bored when I'm watching them.
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From:tatjna
Date:May 21st, 2012 10:03 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I particularly enjoyed the one-liners. ;-) I've never been much of a fan of action movies and the trend for making them funny rather than braggardly lately is one I've appreciated. But the bottom line is there is still only so much you can do with a battle scene/car chase/world-in-danger type scenario.
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From:polychrome_baby
Date:May 21st, 2012 10:50 pm (UTC)
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It managed to make me give a shit about Hulk. Which is something that nothing else has managed to do. So, that's something. I also got launched into wanting to see the other movies that are explicitly part of the plotline: Iron Man 1 and 2, Captain America, Thor and Incredible Hulk.

Of those, so far I've seen Iron Man 2 and Captain America, and both of those after seeing The Avengers.
It was quite interesting/satisfying to see the things being set up for tA in those, though.
The basic timeline as I understand it is Captain America > Iron Man > Iron Man 2 > Thor > Incredible Hulk > The Avengers with some filler bits in between that are DVD extras or end credit bits.

I was basically meh about Black Widow (and Hawkeye, for that matter). They don't shine extra hard. In Whedon's defense on the pejorative front, I'll say that it was specifically a bad guy saying it. That specifically one of Joss's themes that he repeats regularly throughout his works is that women are badass, and that they are continually beat down on, disrespected or otherwise othered simply for being women. I would say that he was showing this actually happening.
On the other side of that I see that as much as Loki is the "bad guy," he's also pretty cool. Saying that the bad guy is not supposed to be a role model and blah blah blah doesn't really work, when the bad guys are just as interesting and "cool" as the good guys, albeit different. People like villains. One does not have to make a villain who is a bigot, or at least make the bigotry central to their character so it's not an un-addressed issue.
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From:tatjna
Date:May 21st, 2012 10:57 pm (UTC)
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Hawkeye was one of my favourite characters - possibly because he is so understated. But then, I'd never encountered him prior to last night.

Dr Wheel says Iron Man 1 is better than 2. The only prequel I've seen was Thor, which was also silly fanservice fun IMO. Maybe I just don't care about superheroes or something.

Frankly, I don't think the world needs to see any more examples of how gender is used against women, eh? We're pretty aware of it and I reckon there comes a point when it's just gratuitous.
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From:syn_abounds
Date:May 22nd, 2012 04:30 am (UTC)
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I also wasn't a huge fan of Thor. Loved Captain America but watched Thor going "... when's the storyline going to start?"
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From:bekitty
Date:May 21st, 2012 10:50 pm (UTC)
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I've heard that The Avengers is the first thing that Joss Whedon's ever done that failed the Bechdel test.
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