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Jan. 24th, 2012

06:17 pm - Mah lernins

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Today our lecturer didn't show because he was at the doctor's with his pregnant wife. We decided to forgive him. He'll be back tomorrow to tell us all about the psychology of individuals' responses to climate change.

We considered that his failure to show up (we didn't find out where he'd been till after) might have been a performance-art style way of illustrating a potential individual response..


Like, how to work with a group. Our poster is.. progressing. Amazingly. I did some work over the weekend - last week's adventures showed me that there's no point me doing anything solid or finished on my own because it'll get changed a lot before going in. However I gathered a bunch of useful stuff together and made sure it was all referenced - I figured that any of it could go in anywhere to provide links and filler.

Meanwhile, unknown to me, the other two had got together to do work on it. Nice of them to let me know and see if I wanted to join in. Anyway, this led to another meeting this morning in which we were back to square one, discussing content and comparing notes on what we'd each come up with.

At one point I got frustrated with our recalcitrant group member and just said "Hey look, how about you just tell me what you're prepared to compromise on." All the while calculating how well I have to do in the essay and other parts of the assessment based in how well I thought our poster would do if I argued till I was blue in the face to make it better, or just let this guy have his way.

It worked! He realised he was being a "My way or the highway" type and started to compromise. Consequently our poster is looking a whole lot better. Sadly, when I went away to input the stuff onto the poster itself (I've ended up doing this because I'm the one that's not scared of Corel and I'm good at references), he had another go and when I got back after having done the work, there'd been some arbitrary changes made without consulting me. To be fair, the bit they'd done it to had not been finalised, but there was one bit we'd taken something out of for a very good reason, and he's put it back in. Which is not only annoying, it mucks up the order of the references. *gnng*

But, instead of arguing with him on the spot (our third member had gone home), I suggested we wait till morning and print the poster out so we can draw on it and move things around on paper where we can see the whole thing instead of the small sections we've been working on. I'm hoping by then we'll all have cooled off from our enthusiasm and can look at it objectively and holistically. I'm also hoping not to have the same arguments AGAIN.


So, um, can I have a diplomat's badge now?

This afternoon someone from MFAT gave a lecture about the dynamics of international negotiations in climate change. It was interesting, but not as interesting as I expected. Probably partly because we haven't had the psychology one yet, partly because I'm already familiar with a lot of the issues, and partly because I'm just getting a bit jaded by the whole thing and not taking it in as well as I could.

And partly because it's Joel Day on Saturday and my thinking about international policy negotiations keeps getting interrupted by mental pr0n. ;-/

Mature student? Me? Nah.

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From:pombagira
Date:January 24th, 2012 06:37 am (UTC)
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i is back from druid camp.. *smiles*.. it was good.. err yeah.. so related to your post that comment right?

also


***loves***
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From:tatjna
Date:January 24th, 2012 08:10 am (UTC)
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I was wondering when you'd be home.

Nothing has changed here as you can see. Still studying climate change, still doesn't play well with others..

Glad you had a good time lady! ;-)
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From:adam_0oo
Date:January 24th, 2012 03:38 pm (UTC)
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Working in teams in classes, man, I tell you what.

Did you have the conversation about if you can leave after 15 minutes if the teacher doesn't show up?
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From:tatjna
Date:January 24th, 2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
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Nah, this course is run by a main lecturer, and the guy that didn't show was a guest lecturer so we still had someone steering. There was a discussion about whether he could deliver the lecture without the expert..
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From:thesecondcircle
Date:January 24th, 2012 05:01 pm (UTC)
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In my experience, class group work is never like team work in the 'real world'. I don't know why they keep forcing students to do it when it doesn't really reflect what they will eventually experience.

For one thing, work groups almost always have an explicit or implicit hierarchy -- there's usually someone in charge, or if not, someone in charge can be called on to mediate disputes. Second, in the work world there are typically areas of ownership where you have temporary authority. So the marketing director gets final call on marketing decisions while the support director the same for support decisions. Third, in the real world deliverables are usually more complex and varied. The release plan for a new product doesn't result in a poster and paper, it's got TONS of parts that different people take primary responsibility for. And unlike class situations, where the instructor really doesn't want to hear about your difficulties ("work it out yourselves"), in the work world it's common to out the slackers who are jeopardizing the project (and sometimes people who aren't, but who others don't like). Plus you don't really share a grade at the end. If a project fails, there will be finger pointing and different people will come out looking better or worse.

There is negotiation, but a lot less than you'd think. I, for one can always tell when I'm working with a fresh graduate because they seem to think that they can chime in on everything equally and that talking endlessly about the project is appropriate. Whereas once you've been at it a while you realize that you have to pick your battles, own what you can, and get busy.
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From:tatjna
Date:January 24th, 2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
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Yeah. And I've only ever had to do this in the real world, so I'm finding it quite affronting that things I thought were settled are constantly being rediscussed, and also that everything seems to be up for discussion/argument.

I know I tend to be a bit of a control freak (mostly because I know how good I am at this sort of thing - particularly creating a cohesive statement), and I've been deliberately trying to make sure I don't bulldoze others - instead I'm finding I have to work harder than I think is necessary to avoid being bulldozed myself.

It's frustrating and I'll be glad when it's over. I doubt we'll get as good a mark as a team as I could get on my own. ;-/
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From:thesecondcircle
Date:January 24th, 2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
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One suggestion for your group right now is to follow up meetings with an email outlining decisions that the group came to. It formalizes things in people's minds a bit so hopefully they will strong bringing stuff up again.
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From:tatjna
Date:January 24th, 2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, that's a good idea. Although, I'll have to implement it next time I come across this, as today's our last day so it's all f2f.
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