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When hashtags attack! - Tactical Ninja

Nov. 9th, 2011

09:30 am - When hashtags attack!

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About 45 Sydney Occupiers were evicted by 100 riot police last night. 5 of them had been squatting in an empty building to highlight the lack of inner-city housing in Australia, and about 40 people came to attempt to support them when the police showed up. They were 'moved on' by cops who broke in with grinders and arrested the 5.

In contrast, here's the statement from Dunedin police in response to the Dunedin Council's attempt to trespass the protestors to move them on:

"The Courts have made it clear that any power to trespass people protesting in a public place must be exercised reasonably, and must balance the rights and freedoms of those involved. To date Police have not been made aware of any activity by the protesters that would justify Police intervention in the protest. Police will continue to monitor the situation. We acknowledge and understand that this occupation is frustrating for both the Council and some members of the public. In the meantime, we remain willing to continue working with both council representatives and Occupy Dunedin to resolve this matter. Police have today advised the Council of our position."


I've taken a few days off from Occupy to focus on my own stuff. Last time I went I attended the Special Assembly to decide the future of the protest - it seems the decision was made to stay and activities are continuing. There is now a form for those who wish to register a workshop. The market went really well and will be done again. Occupiers around the country are now talking regularly on Skype to develop some national cohesion, and the first major combined activity is the People's Parliament on 11/11/11 (this Friday):

"The Occupied Cities of Aotearoa invite you to join us at 5.30pm on Friday to participate in real democracy at the first sitting of the People’s Parliament!

The People’s Parliament is founded on respect for all people and equality for all voices. Together we can discuss the problems that face us locally and globally, and together we can generate solutions accessible to everyone.

We must recognise that the problems facing the world today are the natural product of the institutions we have built. We can not expect the solutions to these problems to come from within these same institutions. The solutions must come from the people, united.

We believe the global problems we face require a global redesign that can only be achieved by the collaboration, cooperation and creativity of all the world's people. This redesign is happening now in 2,500 Occupied Cities around the world, and we need your input.

It is the people, not politicians, that are best qualified to create sustainable, healthy, happy communities. Together we can shape a future that is environmentally, socially and economically just for everyone.

Come put your piece into the puzzle; join us 5.30pm this Friday!
"


I've been following the #mencallmethings hashtag. It was started by Sady Doyle of Tiger Beatdown in response to the way that women bloggers on the internet are subjected to gender-based abuse in ways that men are not. It's been interesting, particularly when the MRA trolls turned up to ensure that nobody will ever want to fuck them. However, it's now being taken over by one very determined poster who believes the hashtag centres cis women and therefore is a bad thing.

As a cis woman who tries very hard to be aware and respond to intersectionality, I understand where the poster is coming from but ffs sometimes things ARE about cis women, and gender-based abuse on the internet is one of those things. Trans women have it way worse but I'm not seeing anywhere in this thing where anyone's excluded trans women - and being cis does not make you immune to this kind of abuse. Just saying.

Also, when are we going to get over 'going viral' as a way of saying 'is suddenly popular on the internet'? It's starting to sound like business wankspeak.

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From:bekitty
Date:November 8th, 2011 09:08 pm (UTC)
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However, it's now being taken over by one very determined poster who believes the hashtag centres cis women and therefore is a bad thing.

And when I read that, I knew EXACTLY who you were talking about without even looking. It's Voz again, isn't it? She has a history of making every feminist hashtag be about her and how she's being VICTIMISED and ERASED by those EVIL CIS PEOPLE!!1!1!eleven!

*sigh*

I blocked her on Twitter a long time ago. However, it seems that she's come back with a new handle. I suppose I'm just going to have to reblock her.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 8th, 2011 09:10 pm (UTC)
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Yes, and I'm pretty sure she's one of the _f people with a different name as well. The MO is familiar.
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From:bekitty
Date:November 8th, 2011 09:21 pm (UTC)
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I believe that she got banned from Shakesville for trolling.
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From:megapope
Date:November 9th, 2011 01:31 am (UTC)
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Yeah it's the usual suspect. She's posted about the hashtag thing on her blog. My favourite moment of 'wtf' was when she posted about gay people protesting for marriage rights and complained that because trans people had it worse that gay folks should just STFU.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 9th, 2011 01:36 am (UTC)
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Actually I wasn't thinking of that person, but of someone else. Now I'm going O.o
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From:megapope
Date:November 9th, 2011 01:42 am (UTC)
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Wait.... so Voz isn't the other person... wow. Because that sounds exactly like her MO.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 9th, 2011 01:50 am (UTC)
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Voz is not the person you're thinking of, no.
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From:bekitty
Date:November 9th, 2011 06:17 am (UTC)
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There are quite a few people around who use her MO. Most of them learned it from her.
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:November 9th, 2011 01:03 am (UTC)
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I think people say viral for the same reason people use symbols like cis women and MRA (I had to look those up!). It more succinctly describes the concepts they represent.

I wonder why they chose to specifically use the labelling MRA in the blog post, but "men" in the hashtag given they are both the same length? Selecting men as a group like that just seems like it's divisive, especially with a number of feminist tweeters pointing out that some of the worst abuse they get is from other women.

But then this reaction I have is the same one that makes me avoid or interject in discussions by men on women where all women are treated as one large homogeneous group instead of as individuals each deserving of human dignity.

Of course, I've written about how it's easier to just generalise, because that's what our brains do to cope with complexity. So at some point we have to allow for generalisations.

Amusingly[1], my workmate has been getting a stream of physically threatening and emotive vitriol from web developers about topics which really don't seem worth the emotional investment. Admittedly, it's all from men. ;-p

[1] Well, to us, because we laugh about ways to stir them up with short replies that elicit 3+ paragraph diatribes.
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From:tatjna
Date:November 9th, 2011 01:11 am (UTC)
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I suspect they used 'men' because a) lots of people don't know what MRA means and b) a lot of the men who do this are not MRAs. And I'm also guessing they are assuming that people realise the tag doesn't mean all men - because obviously all men do not do this, but enough do to make it an issue.
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From:sheilagh
Date:November 9th, 2011 02:25 am (UTC)
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Hello! I saw you mentioned in Kyle Cassidy's blog by t_c_da: http://kylecassidy.livejournal.com/679574.html

Are you someone, or might you know folks, who might be interested in keeping this communication network in your toolkit?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/07/1034123/-Anonymous-Operation-Flock:-Occupation-Wall-Street-Communication-Network

Messaging with the person who posted that diary, the intent is to have backup communication networks for when/if the Powers that Be try to shut down the current big channels like twitter / facebook. Thus, not necessarily a well-populated set of chatrooms, at the moment, but possibly helpful down the road.

Keep up the spirit! Wellington was lovely when we visited in the 1980s.

Edited at 2011-11-09 02:26 am (UTC)
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From:tatjna
Date:November 9th, 2011 02:45 am (UTC)
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Yep, the Wellington/Aotearoa comms team are onto it - there's a pretty strong Kiwi branch of Anonymous too! ;-)

I'll add that link to the list. Aotearoa have been mainly communicating by Skype but I know one person in particular who's keen for us to be more involved globally.
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