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In which politicians show their true colours - again. - Tactical Ninja

Jun. 29th, 2011

10:04 am - In which politicians show their true colours - again.

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Last night I finished the first half of the Fuzzy Blanket of Doom. This was supposed to be a present for the Youth of Today for his birthday, but things conspired to make it be late - new reed for loom, miscalculation of quantities needed, discovering that the fuzzy yarn I'm using beats tighter than handspun wool so takes twice as long to weave.. but yes! Half a fuzzy blanket is better than none, right? And it will be WARM!


Apart from the fact that a lot of them are stark raving bonkers. Apart from the fact that Don Brash is in bed with them now and he'd like to boot all the Maori out of New Zealand and reclaim it for its rightful white overlords *cough*.

Seems that Cameron Wayne Browne has been going around telling women to 'get raped'. Or, more specifically, he said this to a woman who was arguing with him on Facebook.

So who the fuck is Cameron Wayne Browne then? Well might you ask. He's nobody. Well, he's actually the vice president of ACT On Campus - their student wing. Here's his Twitter. As you can see he's a fine upstanding young gentleman, to whom we would love to trust the future of our country. Oh wait, actually the opposite of that.

You know how the ACT party are a bit libertarian, and like to spout on about personal responsibility and how if you just work hard, live right, be good*, everything will naturally come to you and that the government should get out of the way and let people take care of themselves?

Here's their definition of personal responsibility. Yep, that's right, attempting to deflect attention to where in an unrelated incident an ACT party member was compared with a paedophile by someone else on Twitter.

So, um, an ACT party member tells someone to get raped and instead of taking personal responsibility, the ACT party goes "BUT OMG TRIVIALISING CHILD RAPE (which by the way we never cared about till we needed a distraction) SO YOU SHOULD GO AFTER THAT AND FORGET THAT WE JUST TOLD SOMEONE TO GET RAPED!"

I am wondering if ACT thinks Mr Browne's attitude is somehow made ok by this. *sigh* Yep, the future of our country in all its glory, right there. Young white men who tell women to get raped when they're angry, and point at someone else when called on it.

All class, ACT. PS welcome to the fun world of being a public figure, Cameron.

* and are white, male and middle class (it's in the fine print).


Have a thing from Antonio Machado (not to be confused with Antonio Banderas):

"Wanderer, your footsteps are the road, nothing more; there is no road --
you make the road by walking. Turning to look behind, you see the path
you will never travel again."


I dunno, it seems relevant to a few people at the moment. Especially the bit about making your path by walking it.

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From:ferlengheti
Date:June 28th, 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
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i find this interesting because i actually work with an ACT candidate/list dude. he has no electorate, and is too far down the list to get Stuff, but still. he's got that whole libertarian thing going, but hes also VERY greeny in his beliefs. comes across badly, poor sod, because hes S african, and people assume hes a big racist. but really hes a really good guy, articulate, smart, and motivated to make the country he has chosen a great one.

he and i have talked about the young ACT kids at uni, because kates little brother used to be one of them, and jack was a right so-and-so. being lectured by a 15 year old capitalist went down, as you can imagine, like a lead balloon.

the bottom line is that ACT@Vic brats do not represent the views of the party in any way. for the most part theyre just like any other Party@Vic - horridly single-minded without any life experience. some of the greenies froth a bit at anyone in leather shoes, and i know this because my sax player is one of them =)

and to take it further, a lot of the time, the party members have completely different political beliefs that the party does. my colleague thought ACT was closest to his, but has said that Green would have been equally appropriate, if not more so, except for having very little focus on economic growth.

Cameron Wayne Browne is clearly a complete fuckknuckle. Regardless of the variety of deeply unpleasant things he was being called earlier in that FB conversation, there can be no justification for telling someone to "get raped". but i dont think its fair to say the opinions on the ACT@Vic twitter account are that of the party.

I will not be changing my affiliations from Big Giant Greenie Socialist. but I will continue to try to cajole my colleague to come over to our side. =)
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From:tatjna
Date:June 29th, 2011 12:05 am (UTC)

Some ACT things

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Rodney Hide. Don Brash. Roger Douglas.

Climate change denial. Privatisation of prisons. Scrapping the Treaty. 'Freeing up' employment law. Their policy document actually says "Get rid of nutty regulations". O.o

I don't think these things would be seen as equally appropriate by the Greens.

Yes, Mr Browne is a fuckknuckle. And if his party hadn't backed him in the way they did I wouldn't drag them into it. But they have a poor track record for doing anything for anybody except white middle class men and I believe that Mr Browne's demonstrated attitude makes him a perfect ACT member.

So yeah, student political party members tend to be frothy and ranty and have poor judgement - but the party this one's in continue that well into their sixites.
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From:ferlengheti
Date:June 29th, 2011 12:19 am (UTC)

Re: Some ACT things

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obviously, youre right. =)
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:June 29th, 2011 01:06 am (UTC)
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I never understood having political parties on University campuses. It seemed too much like religious indoctrination and I knew at the time I didn't have enough life experience to make political decisions or accept a political ideology.
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From:laoke
Date:June 29th, 2011 01:34 am (UTC)
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But that in turn raises an interesting question: is a political ideology or decision for life? Are the decisions you make at a young age binding on you?

I've always held that when you're young you're going to make amazingly bad decisions. But there's no reason that you can't revisit them later and honestly? Deciding on a demonstrably incorrect political ideology while in Uni strikes me as one of the more, well, correctable mistakes one can make.

Do you think that for most people, decisions made at a young age tend to bind them? I'm not sure either way - I know that as I age and, I like to think, grow wiser, I look back on some of my decisions and while I wouldn't change them for the world, they're not the decision I'd make now.
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:June 29th, 2011 01:46 am (UTC)
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Oh, I don't believe people should have those decisions held against them. Instead, it concerns me because surrounding yourself with a group of people who all speak the party line will likely shape beliefs along with producing peer pressure to conform. Not everyone will conform, but for the more polarised and extreme parties it seems like a scary tactic to indoctrinate impressionable young adults who are still sorting out how they feel about various issues.
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From:polychrome_baby
Date:June 29th, 2011 01:46 am (UTC)
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Really and seriously, I flirted with all sorts of stupid political ideologies when I was young. It's not that someone has to be wrong when they're young, it's just that they tend to be passionate, and therefore are often very whatever.

I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything of use there...
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From:tatjna
Date:June 29th, 2011 02:11 am (UTC)
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I voted for the McGillicuddies in university. But I didn't join them. I certainly didn't get affiliated enough with them so that they'd leap to my defence when I said stupid things in public.

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From:t_c_da
Date:June 29th, 2011 03:01 am (UTC)
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It is interesting though, how what the McGillicuddies were proposing (that seemed so far out as to be ridiculous) 30 or 40 years ago has now become the accepted norm...

I recall someone saying that one should be a socialist in ones youth (to demonstrate that one has a heart) and move progressively right wing as one ages (to prove one has a brain), or something along those lines - not that I've got any more right wing with age, as I'm still leaning towards green/socialist with a big helping of Bill&Ben (aka "d) None of the above").

ymmv
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From:tatjna
Date:June 29th, 2011 03:04 am (UTC)
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Weirdly I've gone in the opposite direction.
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From:eipi10
Date:June 29th, 2011 04:35 am (UTC)
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Young socialist (heart) --> Older conservative (brain)

Yes, I've heard that pithy line a few times too. I've always been impressed by what a well-crafted piece of propaganda it is :-)
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From:vernacularity
Date:June 29th, 2011 07:21 am (UTC)
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i would think its more important for younguns to demonstrate they have a brain and olduns to demonstrate they have a heart.
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From:t_c_da
Date:June 29th, 2011 09:02 pm (UTC)
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indeed...
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From:anna_en_route
Date:June 29th, 2011 09:35 am (UTC)
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I have this suspicion that what in fact happens is that as you age the things that were scary and new to your elders when you (the metaphorical you) were young become simply accepted as part of society (and therefore "conservative") as you age.

At least that's the way I would like it to work, kind of fits with the whole "arc of history bending towards justice" thing.
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From:tatjna
Date:June 29th, 2011 02:09 am (UTC)
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Y'know, I've got lots of life experience to make political decisions and I'm still not sure I accept a particular ideology.

I mean, the Greens are the closest but I still disagree with enough of their policy to not be interested in becoming a member. So my life experience has taught me that what I think works is not encapsulated by any one party.

(i agree they exist to round up young keen ideologists and direct them early)
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