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Mar. 31st, 2011

10:21 am - Picky picky judgey judgey

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When I see sentences that start like this on the internet:

"I myself have been in that situation and ..."

I immediately think the person writing it is a pompous git. "I myself"?? That would be opposed to "I someone else" then? Or "I in proxy"? "I (actually my dog)"?

Apparently it isn't actually grammatically incorrect, and the 'myself' is used for emphasis. So when a person uses "I myself" they're essentially saying "I, yes I" or translated into internet speak, "MEMEMEMEMMEEEEE!" Except in a really pompous way. And I can't quite pin my finger on why I find it pompous, except it gives me that self-important vibe, like the 'myself' gives 'I' extra authority. Check it out:

1. I saw Pink Floyd live at Western Springs.
2. I myself saw Pink Floyd live at Western Springs.

I don't think the second sentence makes it seem as though I was more there at the concert, or that my concert experience was more valid. It just makes me look pompous. I am important because I add 'myself' after 'I'. So you should listen to me.

Which makes my rebellious inner self go "Fuck you, shan't." And my Tall Poppy Syndrome want to take you down a peg or two.

Because my life is that exciting - yes, I get riled over grammar.

*cough*

Oh sorry, I myself get riled over grammar.

[edit] And for some reason I now feel compelled to admit that I find the relationship between the brothers in Supernatural both fascinating and profound. Yes, I know the acting and storylines are cheesy. I know the makers seem to be out to offend everyone they can think of. Yet.. I'm compelled by watching Sam and Dean interact. And not in a slashy way either. #mysecretshame

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From:khaybee
Date:March 30th, 2011 09:56 pm (UTC)
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I, myself, get riled over the misuse of the word 'literally'.

I recently read someone's writing about a thing they saw on TV. They said, "When I saw it, I literally plotzed". I don't think they did.
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From:tatjna
Date:March 30th, 2011 10:08 pm (UTC)
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OK so I had to look up 'plotzed'. I guess it's conceivable that someone could plotz over a TV show, it does seem unlikely.

(i am glad i'm not the only one who gets peeved at little things)
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From:tatjna
Date:March 30th, 2011 10:08 pm (UTC)
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But then, now I know of the word, I'm likely to be looking for excuses to use it too. ;-)
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From:khaybee
Date:March 30th, 2011 11:05 pm (UTC)
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Have fun with silly Yiddish words:

http://www.sbjf.org/sbjco/schmaltz/yiddish_phrases.htm
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:March 31st, 2011 12:00 am (UTC)
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I, myself, literally took over the world.

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I see "I myself" as a kind of othering of I. As if it's indicating distance between the experience about to be communicated, and that the user wants to convey that the thing they say is considered, rather than a direct expression of self.

(I find "shan't" weird because I, myself, feel there should be a ' between sha and nt too... but sha'n't just looks wrong)
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From:tatjna
Date:March 31st, 2011 01:19 am (UTC)
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It's completely right in orcish!
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From:vernacularity
Date:March 31st, 2011 07:17 am (UTC)
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that's pretty much exactly how I see it too, and was intending to say so when I scrolled down and saw your comment :D I see it as a pseudo 3rd-person, so they can more easily transfer onto talking about you, indicating things are objectively assessed. Talking about my self is a different thing from talking about me.
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From:tatjna
Date:March 31st, 2011 07:32 am (UTC)
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I can kind of see that but I'm having trouble making the distinction.
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From:vernacularity
Date:March 31st, 2011 08:20 am (UTC)
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Oh I also see it as a variety of self-aggrandisement. In my musings I am reminded of one of Fred Dagg's essays in Daggshead Revisited, i which he discusses modern (at the time) Australian writing: in particular The Great Australian Novel. In this he makes a comment, referring to the subject being a a story involving the land "sorry, the very land itself.." and this came to mind when I thought how the statement is so very much more of an irritation in situations when it is prefaced with "even", such as "Even I, myself, have been known to partake of the fruit of the vine" (or some such pseudo humility...)
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From:whatifitworks
Date:March 31st, 2011 12:08 am (UTC)
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How about: 'Me, myself and I saw Pink Floyd live (and only paid once!)'.

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From:tatjna
Date:March 31st, 2011 01:19 am (UTC)
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Me, myself and I would totally pay to see Joan Armatrading twice. ;-)
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From:whatifitworks
Date:March 31st, 2011 01:20 am (UTC)
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Does this mean you need to buy six tickets, or two?
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From:tatjna
Date:March 31st, 2011 01:24 am (UTC)
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Darn, you have discovered my dastardly reason for condemning the use of repetitive self-references in the same sentence!
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From:tatjna
Date:March 31st, 2011 08:49 am (UTC)
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You know I'm a sucker for sentient worms.
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