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I will break your balls with my nationality! - Tactical Ninja

Oct. 15th, 2010

11:29 am - I will break your balls with my nationality!

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You know how the number plate people don't make number plates where the letter combination* could spell rude words? Like, you never see a plate that says "BUM101" for example. Well, it seems that number plate makers haven't kept up with the internet age. This morning The Kid and I witnessed FAP371 (a blue Mazda Demio) making its way along the Quays. Yes, there was immaturity. Because he's 15 and I'm 12.

* In New Zealand, the number plates have three letters followed by three numbers. Used to be two letters and four numbers (like my car) but when they got to ZZ in 2001 they had to come up with a new system. Prior to that it was two letters and three numbers - I remember my folks' old Datsun Bluebird (which was built prior to permanent plates being required) having BQ584.


The time has come for me to expose myself. And not in the way that will blow up Sophie's friends page. You can thank me later...

I've been on the internet for less time than most of the people I know. Even though I was probably ahead of most of you in the computer skills department back in 1983, being one of only three people in my school who was allowed on the Commodore 64s (all three of them) unsupervised because I could program in BASIC reasonably competently, my life went in another direction after that and I didn't actually have my own computer again until 1998. And I didn't get, or care about, the internet until 2000.

Aside: I remember my first PC that my brother built for me had a massive 800MB of hard drive space. I filled that up pretty quickly, and then in my wisdom, started deleting stuff to make space. "What is this system 32 thing, I don't use that!" *delete* etc. It still worked until I rebooted.. then I had to wait 2 weeks till my brother could come to the wops (the actual wops, not what some CBD-dwellers might think are the wops - I was 65km from the nearest petrol station) to fix it. Oops. In my defence, the last time I'd touched a computer, operating systems as we know them now didn't exist and everything was done in DOS - I had no concept of what Windows really was.

Oh my how things change.

Anyway, since I've only been on the internet for half its life, I'm clearly challenged when it comes to certain understandings. I never even participated in bulletin boards. *cue gasping from the geeks everywhere* So I have a list of questions:

1. WTF is with sparkledogs? Whose idea was it, when did it start and WHYYYYY?
2. Hetalia. I don't understand.
3. When did the Chuck Norris thing start?
4. Why haven't people jumped on the Happy Keanu thing? I think Happy Keanu is better than Strutting Leo, although the ones that combine them are the best:



5. How did the term 'weeaboo' come about?
6. Have you seen this man?

There are other questions, but that will do for now. Please don't be sending me the 'here let me google that for you' thing - there are only so many things you can google from work and besides, you guys are more interesting.


What Prof David Nutt thinks of NZ politicians' approach to suggestions from the EACD on drug reform.

Gosh, so late today. Got distracted by reading up on how Northern Hemisphere men think Kiwi women are unfeminine, loud, aggressive and mannish.

And I didn't rant about it. Yet. Again, you can thank me later.

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From:crsg
Date:October 14th, 2010 10:38 pm (UTC)
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I can't help with any of the other questions, but when you say Hetalia, I assume you're referring to Hetalia: Axis Powers, which began as a web comic but is now a ridiculously popular and ongoing anime & manga series that make many a fangirl squee. Although if you're asking why it's so popular rather than what the thing actually is, you'd have to ask someone who actually likes it.
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From:tatjna
Date:October 14th, 2010 10:39 pm (UTC)
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The question was a bit of both, so thank you. ;-)
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From:tieke
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:09 pm (UTC)
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"Northern Hemisphere men think Kiwi women are unfeminine, loud, aggressive and mannish"

Yeah, but that's cos they're wusses.
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From:vernacularity
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
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egads. and I have several times IN THE PAST secretly gleed when reading online dating site forums, where the southern hemisphere men whinged about similar, followed with idealistic ranting about how the northern hemisphere Ladies are "so much more feminine" ie they "care about their appearance" etc. haha. fuck you buddy(s). I would guess such Nrthn Gals would probably be looking at these guys as uncultured slobs. Like the local ones do.

anyhoo... still single.... how is this possible? :-D
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From:tatjna
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:32 pm (UTC)
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I'm just all "What does feminine even meeeaaaan?"
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From:vernacularity
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:39 pm (UTC)
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open toed high heeled cork sandals and gold bracelets, with earrings and lippy at every occasion?
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From:tatjna
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
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Ah, right. That's the outfit I normally choose for my Male Emasculation practice sessions.
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From:vernacularity
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:47 pm (UTC)
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using a long stemmed champagne glass sorry flute with the top edge broken to a serrated circle?
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From:tatjna
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:48 pm (UTC)
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Yes. I can do this one-handed while checking my nail polish for chips with the other.
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From:caycos
Date:October 15th, 2010 02:11 am (UTC)
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But chipped nails are in!!!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/beauty/4236588/Chipped-nail-varnish-craze
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From:tieke
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:51 pm (UTC)
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Based on my experience in England, it means:
- you are too scared to go mountain biking, although you might be persuaded into it by your boyfriend. You will definitely get off and walk the steep downhills, however.
- And on that front, it is a point of pride for you to tell everyone about how scared you are of any kind of remotely challenging physical activity. Going to the gym is OK though, as is tennis, and rowing if you're in Oxbridge.
- you would never drink two whole pints of beer in an evening at the pub.
- You are unlikely to be assertive, etc, etc

Sounds like I'm angry, but I'm not, and I do respect women who don't like physical challenges, don't drink beer, etc, those are perfectly valid choices. But I have little respect for people who hold those images of women as default assumptions (much more common in England than here, in my experience), and who feel threatened by women who don't meet them. And I wouldn't be remotely interested in a relationship with a guy who had those attitudes, which is why I just kind of end up going "meh, wusses".
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From:tatjna
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:58 pm (UTC)
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I can't imagine being attracted to a guy who was threatened by a sense of adventure or an ability to do things for oneself.

Maybe that's why the other thing we get told we are as Kiwi women is 'up ourselves.'

Also, the bit where you say "Sounds like I'm angry" is pretty telling. It didn't sound angry to me at all - maybe a bit derisive but not angry. I'm wondering if the lack of respect that you feel for this stereotype and that I read as completely normal, is a product of our culture that other cultures somehow interpret as anger.

Irrelevant aside - I mentioned somewhere on the internet the other day that I own an elastrator. Then I realised that most people would have to google that to see what it was. The very first link in google led to a page showing people who clearly had not read the instructions where they said "ONLY TO BE USED ON ANIMALS". So I probably just did my bit to further the stereotype. ;-)
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From:tieke
Date:October 15th, 2010 07:08 am (UTC)
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First elastrator link in my google search doesn't load, but what I'm imagining doesn't look pleasant!

Re. me making excuses for sounding angry - tbh, I think it's just my own special fear of confrontation that made me want to soften it.

And while, mostly I'm pretty smug about how advanced I think NZ is on this front, this afternoon I was at the house, gib-stopping, and there was an ad on the radio for a furnishings fabric shop, that ended with the catch-phrase "the DIY shop for women". Which I found somewhat mystifying, given the abundance of mainstream media in this country (i.e. house porn), that depict women hammering, drilling, sawing, etc, for their house renovation projects.
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From:pleiadeslion
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:09 am (UTC)
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I think that the average New Zealand male idea of what feminine means is to wear dresses, high heels (but not too high) and make-up for special occasions.

Whereas the average English male idea of what feminine means, is to wear dresses, high heels (approaching crippling) and make-up always other than at the gym.

I also think that in NZ there's a bit of a stigma attached to any woman needing a man to do practical things for her (eg, put a spider outside or mending a fuse)... I'm not sure how the average English bloke would react to that, probably 'Well, she's a bird isn't she, bird's don't [do practical thing]'.
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From:tatjna
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
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Sometimes I'm amazed that the English manage to breed at all.

Oh wait, they have beer. Like us.
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From:phaetonschariot
Date:October 15th, 2010 08:32 pm (UTC)
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But the women don't drink it, apparently.
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From:anna_en_route
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:12 am (UTC)
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Ooooh ooh ooh... I can play too

-You spend the entirety of hiking accross Spain complaining that everythin you do is "not sexy" including mud/sweat/truck drivers and hiking boots.



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From:anna_en_route
Date:October 15th, 2010 01:00 am (UTC)
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It seems like such a sad way to live, spending all of your life concerned with how other's view you...
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:16 am (UTC)
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I would generally find those points[1] a turn-off, so obviously I'm not from the Northern Hemisphere (or I'm not a man, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case).

[1] apart from the beer thing.
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From:tatjna
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:22 am (UTC)
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I can confirm that you are a man.

Or a clever android, vaguely humanoid, structurally sound, etc.

I'm glad I don't have to chug pints to prove my femininity to you. x
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:24 am (UTC)
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I'm glad I don't have to chug pints to prove my masculinity to you.

(I already did that for laughs, with wine instead of beer, and... NEVER AGAIN)
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From:anna_en_route
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:09 pm (UTC)
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I think the Chuck Norris thing might have originated with the Conan O'Brien show where he had a "walker texas ranger" lever which would show small (and unintentially hilarious) clips.

I only know this second hand from watching the Stewart/Colbert/O'Brien faux-feud during the writers strike so some of the details may be wrong.
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From:rivet
Date:October 14th, 2010 11:14 pm (UTC)
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Sad to say, I can't answer most of those questions. But 'this man' is clearly a future iteration of the the Doctor, since that fits the story.
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From:pleiadeslion
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:13 am (UTC)
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Also, on an LJ community somewhere (I forget which one) someone (whom I presume was a British male) assumed that I was making pointed national stereotypes at him (whereas I was actually explaining some of the ideas in 'Watching the English' by Kate Fox) and decided to make his back at me.

He said, Kiwi girls will drop their knickers for anyone with a nice accent.

It kind of surprised me but I thought it was quite sweet that that was the worst thing he could come up with, as I don't think that anyone needs a reason to drop their knickers but doing so for a nice accent seems a bit more laudable than, say, doing so for a nice pay packet, or similar.
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:23 am (UTC)
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I think that generally a nice accent works wonders on a lot of people, regardless of where they come from. The exotic can be attractive sometimes.
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From:pleiadeslion
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:30 am (UTC)
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Exactly. It was a funny sort of an insult, especially because he plainly meant it to be one #:-/
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From:tatjna
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:25 am (UTC)
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I'd be interested to see research on the pulling power of a nice accent, and who is most likely to drop their knickers.

I've definitely had men offer to drop their knickers for my accent, which isn't that nice by world standards.
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From:pleiadeslion
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)
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The Guardian had a top ten of sexy accents not that long ago which went:

1. Irish
2. Scottish
3. New Zealand
4....
[Australian and South African weren't even in the top ten]

And it made all the NZ tubes go WTF?! in disbelief for ages. So perhaps our accents are more pleasant to certain ears than we think...?
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From:tatjna
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:29 am (UTC)
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Gosh. I always thought we sounded like we were talking through a mouthful of marshmallows.
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From:tyellas
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
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With how much Americans like sweet things, what could be more seductive?
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From:tatjna
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:39 am (UTC)
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Offering YOU the marshmallow?

Actually, since you're not a native NZer, do you mind if I ask you what does the Kiwi accent sound like when you're not attuned to it?
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From:tyellas
Date:October 15th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)
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"She's foreign, and, mmm, I bet her kisses taste like marshmallow!"

I've done training in industrial environments and had to pitch my presentations to peoples' backgrounds, so I've learned to prick up my ears. To my ear there are several Kiwi accents and ways of speaking - educated and never-went-to-uni, alternative and non-alternative.

Educated/alternative has the Kiwi vowel softening, a rounding, and more muted tones. Never-went-to-uni/non-alternative is choppier, flatter, more decibels. I've mistaken deep South Island accents for Russian/Eastern European on more than one occasion.

To me, a heavily accented Kiwi voice gives whatever it's saying extra emphasis and power. The roundedness can be very seductive. So use your accent powers for good!

After living in NZ for 12 years, when I get an American on the phone, they often come across as singsong, nasal. Lots of A sounds. "Aw my Gahd!" Dating in NZ, sometimes my accent has been a disaster because, online, they hadn't expected me to be an American...when this is revealed I'm expected to be a high-maintenance Republican demanding diamonds and leg waxings.
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From:tatjna
Date:October 15th, 2010 01:20 am (UTC)
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Hehe, the first time I went to Gore I mistook someone for an American.

Also, I can totally picture you lying on a daybed demanding diamonds. Mostly because you're aristocratic, not because you're American.

I read somewhere that when the English first arrived in New Zealand, Maori dubbed their language as 'cicada sounds' because Maori has no 's' and English is full of sibilants. Since then I've been fascinated with what accents sound like to different people. Thanks!
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From:tyellas
Date:October 15th, 2010 01:40 am (UTC)
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Aristocratic? Now I have I'm a lady! That's what I am! A lady!" stuck in my head.
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From:strude1
Date:October 15th, 2010 04:23 am (UTC)
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Perhaps the NZers who head overseas aren't of the broad Lyn of Tawa accent type. To be honest, I'm kind of shocked when I hear a NZer speaking like that unmockingly.
That might also explain why the (grating to my ears) australian accent wasn't in the top ten.
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From:ferrouswheel
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:28 am (UTC)
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That strutting Leo picture is hilarious.

I don't know what many of those terms you mention are - despite being a BBS child and internet teenager.

And the article from Prof. Nutt is a well written piece. Thanks for linking.
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From:tatjna
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:31 am (UTC)

You might appreciate...

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From:ferrouswheel
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:35 am (UTC)

Re: You might appreciate...

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Future pie, it's the best pie.

Except future pi, which is contained in the Leibniz formula for π.

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From:morbid_curious
Date:October 15th, 2010 01:07 am (UTC)

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Awww.
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From:phaetonschariot
Date:October 15th, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
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As far as I can tell they're actually all pretty recent memes that you wouldn't need a long history on the internet to understand - I was one of the few kids in primary school who actually had internet access at home and we had COMPLETELY different memes back then. Chuck Norris is probably about the oldest of them.
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From:anna_en_route
Date:October 15th, 2010 12:56 am (UTC)
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I remember vaguely someone describing New Zealanders in terms of

"You struggle,pant and heave your way up a mountain and then find a couple of kiwi girls at the top, full of energy"

I am woefully misquoting but it always gave me kind of a warm fuzzy, cause yes, we do do that =)
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From:blur_kiwi
Date:October 15th, 2010 07:08 am (UTC)
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I don't think Kiwi women are unfeminine, loud, aggressive and mannish, at least not more than anywhere else in the world.

And when I was driving around New Zealand I delighted in my car having a number plate which read, BAR 434.
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