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And in another 'prohibition causes more harm than drugs' installment... - Tactical Ninja

Jan. 22nd, 2016

02:02 pm - And in another 'prohibition causes more harm than drugs' installment...

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This morning I came across this article in which a bunch of young Irish men had ended up in hospital after taking an unknown substance. An earlier article had said the substance was 2C-B, but testing has shown it to be 25i-NBOMe.

I don't know how many of the people who read this use recreational substances, but I'm putting this out there anyway because it's important, NBOMes are becoming more and more common as manufacturers try to get around prohibition, and people need to know how to stay safe.

First, the article is really wrong about this:"Today it emerged that they are not the ecstasy-derived 2CB but in fact a very potent LSD derived drug which can be lethal in small doses."

It's a load of shite misinformation. They are right that 25i-NBOMe can be lethal, which is why you shouldn't take it. However, 2C-B is not derived from MDMA, it's synthesised from 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde, which is not even in the same family as 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine.

Additionally, 25i-NBOMe is not related in any way to LSD. It is synthesised from 2C-I and 2-methoxybenzaldehyde. People who say it's 'synthetic LSD' are either ignorant or lying.

LSD is objectively one of the least harmful of the common recreational drugs. 25i-NBOMe is objectively extremely risky to take. It's been implicated in a number of deaths.

Symptoms that you should probably get your (or your friend's) arse to a hospital include: racing heart; elevated body temperature; numbness, coldness, or tingling in the extremities; and agitation/psychosis. Feel any of these after taking what you thought was LSD and you should seek help.

LSD fluoresces, 25i-NBOMe doesn't. LSD has no flavour, 25i-NBOMe tastes bitter and metallic.

Remember folks, if it's bitter it's a spitter. Rules to live by.

And never take anything on sugar cubes, because they are impossible to test.

Even if you skim the rest of what I've written, if you or your friends have anything to do with recreational substance use, please reread the last four sections and memorise them. It could save a life.

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From:pythia
Date:January 22nd, 2016 02:18 am (UTC)
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Have I mentioned that you're awesome and have teh sexy brains? Coz you are and you do. The world needs more people like you. xx
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From:tatjna
Date:January 22nd, 2016 02:21 am (UTC)
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aw shucks
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From:belenen
Date:January 22nd, 2016 02:40 am (UTC)
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can I share this info on facebook? and if so do you want your name or username attached, or should I just refer to the author as a friend?
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From:tatjna
Date:January 22nd, 2016 02:42 am (UTC)
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Happy for this info to be shared anywhere you think is appropriate. I'm not too worried about being credited, my name only gives me credibility in this field in New Zealand. ;-)
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From:richaarde
Date:January 22nd, 2016 03:14 am (UTC)
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It's unbelievable how much bad propaganda has been written about drugs. Instead of useful information, you get Big Scary Warnings and inaccurate propaganda. It isn't a good way for people to make responsible decisions for themselves.
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From:tatjna
Date:January 22nd, 2016 03:22 am (UTC)
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I'm doing my best to fix that, but it's a long process. We'll get there.
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From:ms_hecubus
Date:January 22nd, 2016 04:21 am (UTC)
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Not to mention that in the US at least LSD has become almost impossible to find.

Which really sucks, to be honest.
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From:tatjna
Date:January 22nd, 2016 05:14 am (UTC)
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Yeah. I understand that the precursor substances have become quite difficult to get, and that's part of what's driven the rise of NBOMes (and many other analogues). I lay blame for this issue directly at the feet of prohibition.
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From:ms_hecubus
Date:January 25th, 2016 08:20 pm (UTC)
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I read that there was one man, a scientist I believe, who used his contacts to import almost all of the chemicals needed to make it. He got busted and the supply completely dried up here. It's too bad too. The FDA keeps cracking down on drugs only to have much worse alternatives pop up in their place.
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